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Mia Cuk

Mia Cuk, Curator in Residence 2023

Courtesy of the artists

Residence Period
November 2023

Mia Ćuk (1988) is an artist who frequently assumes curatorial, editorial and organizational roles as parts of her artistic practice. Working both in theory and in practice, her research encompasses the notions of urban histories and intimate topographies, domesticity and time, anonymous archives and personal collections, records of surfaces and sentiments— which she articulates as site specific experiences, ephemeral installations, book-objects and texts. Most commonly she engages in diaristic narrative forms which document her personal trajectories. 

She is the co-founder of Footnote- Centre for Image and Text, an artist-run studio, a community space and a residency programme in Belgrade dedicated to experimentation, research and production in the field of arts and self-publishing. In 2022, as the artistic director of the Artget gallery at the Cultural Centre of Belgrade, she curated a series of exhibitions exploring the affective, performative and embodied aspects of photographic and post-photographic practices. She has previously taught at the Academy of Arts, University of Novi Sad and as a guest lecturer on different graduate and postgraduate programmes within Erasmus + framework.

Some of her recent presentations include: From the water I notice the top of an orange tree, site specific essay and reading at the garden of Flora gallery/ Dubrovnik, audio installation The Department of Ocassioanlity, 59th October Salon/ reading room of the University Library of Belgrade, video essay Blackberries by night (Museum of Contemporary Arts of Skopje, The Youth Centre od Belgrade), group exhibition Inside the Seismograph/ U10 gallery, Belgrade, photographic installation The ship has sunk from within/ Artget gallery, Cultural Centre of Belgrade. Her works are included in permanent collections of Belgrade Youth Center, University of Westminster and Wiener Städtische art collection. 

Mia holds a Bachelor’s diploma in Fine Arts from the University of Novi Sad, and a Master’s degree in Photographic Studies from the University of Westminster, London.

She lives in Belgrade and works internationally. 

Weekly Conversations… with Robin Waart

Weekly Conversations… with Robin Waart

Photo © Robin Waart, File. Baseboard with(out) Penguin (books). Artisbook, Groningen 2021

Die Arbeit von Robin Waart beginnt mit den Worten anderer. Er nutzt die Wiederholung und das Sammeln als Rahmen für Projekte und Installationen mit Büchern, Filmstills, Fotografien und Buchseiten, um Fragen der (Dis-)Kontinuität zu untersuchen, warum und für wen wir machen, was wir machen, und was es bedeutet, immer wieder dasselbe zu tun. Waart studierte Griechisch, Latein und Bildende Kunst in Amsterdam und Den Haag. Er lebt und arbeitet in Amsterdam.

Im weissen haus in Wien wird Robin Waart an seinem Projekt ‘Footnotes and Fußleisten’ arbeiten – über die Frage, was den spezifischen kleinen Text am unteren Rand einer Seite, den Blick auf die Kunst und die Fußleisten, die einen Raum, einen Ausstellungsraum und speziell die Architektur von Rudolph Schindler einrahmen, verbinden könnte.

EIN GESPRÄCH MIT FUSSNOTEN

Robin, du beschäftigst dich ja sehr intensiv mit Textkörpern. Text spielt in deinen Arbeiten immer wieder eine zentrale Rolle, sei es in Form von Büchern, wie sie in deinen Installationen vorkommen, aber auch Filmstils mit Untertiteln oder Buchseiten. Was würdest du sagen bietet dir das Geschriebene an, dass dich in deiner Auseinandersetzung damit so motiviert?

Es ist ein Versuch nicht allein zu sein. Text und Texte kommunizieren, und zwar nicht nur Information. Sie sind Austausch, Kontakt. Mit Wörtern zu arbeiten, bedeutet immer Verantwortung zu tragen, aber es hat auch damit zu tun, dass die eigenen Worte immer weiterbauen auf etwas schon Dagewesenes:  zitieren, referieren, wiederaufnehmen. Dabei entsteht ein bewusstes Wiederaufgreifen von Klischees.  Ich habe mich dann irgendwann entschieden, dieses textliche Kontinuum zu umarmen. Darin geht es eigentlich darum, dass das eine Wort ein anderes Wort, und Text durchaus ein Gegenüber voraussetzt. Meine Arbeiten gehen oft von Fragen aus, die sich wie eine Einladung vor Tun, die sich an ein Du richten. Text bedeutet für mich immer Dialog. Ich versuche außerdem das “Ich” in meinen Arbeiten auch grundsätzlich zu vermeiden – auch wenn das nie wirklich geht[1] – und das Fehlen der eigenen Worte, die nur mir gehören würden, nicht als eine Unzulänglichkeit zu sehen, sondern die Beziehungen zu thematisieren, die es zwischen ihren (möglichen) Eigentümern und Adressaten gibt. Es kann Sprache nur geben, weil sie weitergetragen wird, weil wir sie teilen. Diese Gemeinsamkeit ist es, die mich so an dem Medium fasziniert. 

 

In deinen letzten Projekten galt deine Aufmerksamkeit vor allem unscheinbaren und subtilen Textteilen, wie etwa Fußnoten, welche oftmals ignoriert oder übersehen werden. Während deines Aufenthalts als Resident hier im studio das weisse haus hast du dich aber vor allem der Fußleiste gewidmet. Wie stehen diese in Verbindung? Woher kam die Faszination für die am Rande verlaufenden Leisten und Zeilen?

Was mich zur Fußleiste gebracht hat, ist eigentlich, dass es im deutschen dafür so viele unterschiedliche Namen gibt: Fußleiste, Sockelleiste, Sesselleiste in Österreich, aber auch Mausleiste habe ich gehört. Im niederländischen und französischen ist es plint(he) wo das englische plinth sich wieder nur als “Sockel” übersetzt. Dieses Sprachspiel habe ich im Prozess angefangen ernster zu nehmen. Irgendwann ist mir dann aufgefallen, dass dieses halbe Wort “Sockel-” die Leiste in eine skulpturale Richtung leitet. Und ich habe mich gefragt, was man denn draufstellen sollte, wenn es sich um einen Sockel, einen Podest handelt. Irgendwie fand ich das absurd und auch schön, wenn nämlich das Sprachliche wieder in die Welt zurückzieht, zu was ganz Konkretem wird. Was ich da ahne oder suche, ist der Bezug zwischen beiden: wie können Worte (wieder) Teil der Welt werden? Damals wusste ich noch gar nicht, dass beispielsweise das portugiesische “rodapé” sowohl Fußleiste als auch Fußnote bedeutet. Diese Verbindung ist es, was mir selbst auch unklar ist und dadurch beschäftigt. Wie eine Fußleiste einen Raum umarmt, so deuten Fußnoten auf die Beziehungen und Verbindungen auf einen anderen, eheren oder nächsten Text hin. Sie führen sozusagen gleichzeitig in etwas hinein, aber auch darüber hinaus. Aus der Sprache heraustreten zu wollen, auf das Sprachliche aufmerksam werden ist zwar Fundament dieser Geste, aber was ich dadurch versuchen möchte, ist zugleich wieder auf etwas Nicht-textliches, Gegenständliches zu kommen.

[1]  “But has any writer, who is not a typewriter, succeeded in being wholly impersonal?” Virginia Woolf, On Craftsmanship, BBC Radioaussendung vom 29. April 1937

 

 

Die Architektur eines Raums, Layout eines Textkörpers, beide können in Sehregime eingreifen, Elemente priorisieren oder vernachlässigen. Inwiefern kannst du diese für dich in ‚Fußnoten und Fußleisten‘ nutzbar machen? Stellt die Umlenkung der Aufmerksamkeit auf die Ränder eine Subversion des Sehregims für dich da?

 

Das wäre zumindest der Versuch. Die Frage ist natürlich, was es bringt, den Blick in eine andere Richtung zu lenken: auf den Boden, nach unten, etwas, auf das wir normalerweise ‚hinunterschaut‘. Ob das impliziert, mit den üblichen Perspektiven wäre etwas nicht in Ordnung, oder ob es sich auch einfach um eine Ergänzung und Erweiterung handelt, lasse ich lieber offen. Deutlich ist für mich, dass so betrachtet Fußnoten und Fußleisten etwas mit den Voraussetzungen, Grundlagen oder Rahmenbedingungen eines Textes, eines Raumes, zu tun haben, dass ich es für wichtig halte, sich damit auseinanderzusetzen. Könnte es bei diesem Weglenken vom gewohnten Sehen auch um ein Verlangsamen handeln? Und könnte ein simples Abstandnehmen dieser und auch meiner eigenen Gewohnheiten ausreichen?[1]

 

Nach dieser intensiven Phase der Recherche rund um die Fußleiste, gibt es schon Ideen, wohin sich das ganze weiterentwickeln wird?

 

In meiner Zeit in Wien habe ich viele Stunden in zum Beispiel der Bibliothek des Architekturinstituts verbracht, aber doch weniger Material zur Fußleiste finden können als ich es mir erhofft hatte. Geschrieben und publiziert wurde darüber nicht viel. Irgendwie ist das auf dem zweiten Blick auch gar nicht schlimm, so ein Zwischenstand. Vielleicht ist es etwas, das ich selbst tun sollte, und das noch kommt. Es hat mich aber vor allem verwundert, weil gerade Österreich eine ganz spezielle Form der Fußleiste kennt, die der Ausgangspunkt meiner Zeit in Wien war. Diese zu 45° abgeschrägte, klassische Fußleiste habe ich nur in österreichischen Altbauten gesehen, in Wiener Wohnungen, sowie das MAK oder das Kabinett der Secession – sie sind aber auch in die 1939 von Rudolph Schindler gestalteten Mackey Apartments in Los Angeles gelandet. Etwas, das ich noch gerne verstehen möchte, ist, wie (und vielleicht warum) sie von einem als modernistisch bekannt stehenden Architekten wiederaufgenommen worden wurden.  Wo ich bis jetzt in meiner Arbeit auf das Geschriebene fokussiert war, ist die Recherche in den letzten Wochen mehr Richtung oraler Geschichte gerückt, Gespräche mit Architekt*innen und Künstler*innen. Auch weitere Fragen nach einem möglichen Unterschied zwischen Fußleisten in Ausstellungs- und Wohnräumen kamen auf. Und noch grundsätzlicher, wo sie eigentlich stehen und wie sie zu kategorisieren sind: Wann gehören oder gehorchen sie den Boden? Wann sind Fußleisten Teil der Wand?

Auf jeden Fall hab ich zunächst vor, als Beitrag zu einer Ausstellung hier in Wien, kommenden März einen Raum mit Fußleisten zu versehen. Was noch offen ist, ist die materielle und visuelle Beschaffenheit dieser Fußleisten. Die skulpturale Umsetzung, an die ich denke, wäre in diesem Fall Übersetzung in ein anderes Medium. Statt Strategien wie sie aus Marmor zu meißeln, zu vergrößern oder zu verkleinern habe ich angefangen in eine andere Richtung, an andere Möglichkeiten zu denken. Was ich vermeiden will –auch wenn es vielleicht unvermeidlich ist– wäre die Fußleisten mit Text oder Sätzen zu versehen. “Du verwendest die Worte als Mäntel,” hast du mir vor unserem Gespräch im Off gesagt. Dieser Vergleich gefällt mir sehr. Ich habe hier also in einem Second Hand Laden nah zum Botanischen Garten ein Buch aus den 60ern gefunden, mit dem Titel Ein Schauspieler ohne Text.[2] Vielleicht versuche ich eine Fußleiste Textur zu geben, indem ich sie wie die Buchrücken dieses Buchbandes mit Leinen verkleide. Mit Malerei und der Leinwand hätte das wohl weniger zu tun, aber schon mit der Tapete, die ja auch eine Wand-Tapete sein kann – ein mittlerweile unüblicher Begriff. Ich bin neugierig wann und wie eine Neben- zur Hauptrolle werden könnte? Oder lieber: beides gleichzeitig.[3]

 

[1]  “In a sense it might even be said that our failure is to form habits: for, after all, habit is relative to a stereotyped world, and meantime it is only the roughness of the eye that makes any two persons, things, situations, seem alike.” Walter Pater, Conclusion to The Renaissance (1873)

[2]  Franz Fischer-Karwin, Ein Schauspieler ohne Text. Österreichischer Bundesverlag für Unterricht, Wissenschaft und Kunst. Wien und München 1966, mit auf S. 5 der Zueignung: “Dieses Buch ist Deutschlands charmantester Sängerin gewidmet.”

[3] Clara Pater, die Schwester Walter Paters, war die Tutorin latein-griechisch Virginia Woolfs. Vgl. Letters of Walter Pater (Hsg. Lawrence Evans). Oxford University Press, London 1970, S. xxxiii

Weekly Conversations… with Keyvan Paydar

Weekly conversations… with Keyvan Paydar

As part of his short-term residency at studio das weisse haus, organized in cooperation with SCHAUMBAD – Freies Atelierhaus Graz, artist Keyvan Paydar invited us to his studio for an online presentation. We talked about the value of residencies and the potential that digital space offers.

Watch the whole studio visit here.

Weekly Conversations… with Julia Gaisbacher

Weekly Conversations… with Julia Gaisbacher

Julia Gaisbacher, "Das Fest", 2014, in cooperation with Paul Bauer

Julia Gaisbacher just recently moved into one of our studios at Hegelgasse 14. Therefore, we’d like to introduce her within this series, in order to give you an idea about her practice and the latest projects.

Welcome to studio das weisse haus, Julia! On your website you describe yourself as an artist and photographer. Can you tell us a little bit more about your artistic practice?
I’m actually trained as art historian and sculptor but during my studies at the Art University in Dresden I started to focus on photography, hence I am a self-thought photographer. The topics that I recently dealt with are located around the questions of housing, public and private space: who has the power to decide about it and what social justice or injustice can be seen through that? In addition to the research, the starting point is mostly to take photographic sketches, in order to understand the places/spaces and to get a feeling for the the topic.  Based on this material I develop my concepts.

In 2018 you already had a cooperation with das weisse haus, as your project “One Day You Will Miss Me” was awarded with the Erste Bank ExtraVALUE Art Award Vienna. Is the project, in which you critically engage with a city development project in Belgrade, still ongoing or has your artistic attention been drawn to another topic?
Actually, I had planned to  finish “One Day You Will Miss Me” this year but due to the lockdowns and travel restrictions it was not possible for me to travel to Belgrade, so I want to continue in 2021. Next to other projects that are also located around the topic of private and public space, I will continue my Belgrade-work with a new piece about the so-called “Zagreb Manhattan” project in Zagreb, which was supposed to be built by the same company as in Belgrade but due to resistance of the citizens it could be stopped.

 




How does the current restriction in the cause of the pandemic affect your work and its presentation?
In March and April, with all these uncertainties, it was not easy to keep up with my workflow,  also because some planned exhibitions and projects got cancelled or postponed. Later on, I tried to see the positive side, f. e. I had more time to work on my new projects, had more time for reading or attending online masterclasses and lectures. I tried to see the lockdowns as kind of a reset to think about my everyday life, working habits and if I want to continue in this way or maybe want to change things. I got two commissioned works for exhibitions next year, I am very happy about the new studio and I am also happy how my projects developed, hence I am doing fine now.


 

 

 

 

 

Interview: Juliana Furthner

 

Weekly Conversations… with Malou Solfjeld

Weekly Conversations… with Malou Solfjeld

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Elisabeth Molin, "Echo", 2017, Photo eSeL.at – Joanna Pianka

For this weeks’ conversation we have (virtually) invited Malou Solfjeld, former Curator in Residence and curator of the exhibition „Stress Rehearsal“, which was opened on October 28, 2020, only a few days for before the second lockdown. Nevertheless, we look forward to present the group show soon again to the public.

Due to the current travel restrictions, you were unable to come to Vienna. What was the main challenge to coordinate the exhibition from abroad? And how does it feel to see your concept finally being realized?
I am very happy and grateful that the exhibition succeeded to open 10 months after I started working on my concept for das weisse haus.
Coordinating an exhibition from distance is tricky in many ways, one is that I wasn’t able to walk around in the space while orchestrating the distribution of the works, which is something I find quite important in the attempt to resonate with the physical environment. As a curator I also put an honor into the concept of “holding space” for artists, artworks and audience alike, and this was something I struggled quite a bit with lately, not being able to hold space properly for anyone, by only being half-way-there, half-way-here.
Like an Echo (also see the artwork “Echo” by Elisabeth Molin in the exhibition) my voice sent out from Copenhagen seemed to arrive with a delay, or at least, for sure with some sort of displacement. My point of view is that this “delay” is probably caused by a missing vocabulary that does not translate (yet) through the screen but exists only as vibrations and energies between bodies and minds. And being so far away from the team of das weisse haus and the artists, not being able to exchange thoughts and ideas through this language, is a huge lack when trying to create a “Stress Rehearsal”, thus adding extra layers of stress to the already existing chaotic state-of-mind.
So, curating “Stress Rehearsal” during the pandemic, without being able to travel, was obviously a challenge, not comparable to any prior experience. However, we made it happen, one way or another. And not being in charge of the exhibition design, and some of the artists being suggested and selected by the team of das weisse haus, also was a gift for me, as I got to know new artists this way. I guess, all I can say is that I am happy we managed, because the topics are urgent and the artists are amazing. I am honored to work with each and everyone of them, and I sincerely hope to meet all of them one day when borders again are passable.

The pandemic did not only interfere your stay as a Curator in Residence at studio das weisse haus, but also the planned opening of the exhibition you curated. How did the pandemic influence your concept and how did you try to react to this life changing happenings?
The concept changed completely. I developed the original concept for my residency exhibition between January and March, from the encounter with the studio artists at das weisse haus and at that time the whole show was site-specifically responding to the temporary habitation of das weisse haus and their nomadic nature combined with the political situation in Vienna.

Inspired by my job at Art2030 at that time, I wanted to shed light on biodiversity and companion species, but then: BOOM! This infamous virus showed up, mutated into becoming deadly, and thus threatened to uproot our entire society as we knew it. In my opinion, all this occurred due to the fact that humans have for way too long been (and still today are) treating the planet not as temporary guests, but as ignorant and arrogant, power abusive “masters” who can do whatever they want, without considering the long-term consequences.

Now that you are back in Copenhagen, how is your everyday life and what are your upcoming projects?
I’m currently working intensely on the online public program I’ve curated in extension of this “Stress Rehearsal”, where we will discuss different topics such as fear, care, m/Otherhood and hydrofeminism.
More physically, locally, and less digitally, I’m working on an exhibition in Copenhagen called “Memoirs of the Abyss – Three ecologies and more”, scheduled for May 2021 at Sixtyeight Art Institute. Among the artists I work with here is Enar de Dios Rodriguez who is an amazing Spanish artist researching on sand extraction and deep-sea mining.
Besides this, I am also involved in several writing projects. First of all, I am still working on my book called “Home Is Where The Art Is” initiated from my 3 years in Mallorca at CCA Andratx. For this project, I am trying to get a sense of what “home” actually means, and the lockdown definitely provided a new perspective on things.
Secondly, I am trying to compile a book of texts by curators from all over the world, who participated in “The Curatorial Thing” in Copenhagen in October this year – it was such an incredible group of people and I wish we could gather all their wisdom in one book.
Moreover I am writing texts about the German artist Benedikt Hipp, French artist Camille Claudel and her influence on Ida Retz for a show and publication in Paris. Finally, I’m doing consultancy for a group show in 2022 with a lot of great Danish painters, called Cassandra’s Sisters, examining how Cassandra (cursed by Apollon as many women are today cursed by other Apollo types) was probably the first whistleblower in history. With this exhibition, we aim to question the gender gap in the art world and bring prominent female voices on stage to discuss equality, fake news, truth and consequences.

 
 
 
 
 
Interview: Juliana Furthner
 

Weekly Conversations… with Julianne Cordray

Weekly Conversations… with Julianne Cordray

This week we talk to writer and editor Julianne Cordray, who is based in Berlin, Germany. However, as our Critic in Residence in cooperation with VIENNA ART WEEK she is currently staying in Vienna, where she arrived a few days before the second Lockdown was announced. Nevertheless, VIENNA ART WEEK is taking place online, and Julianne will definitely have something to write about.


Interview by Juliana Furthner


Photo: Julianne Cordray

Congratulations for persuading the jury and welcome again, Julianne! How have your first two weeks at studio das weisse haus and in Vienna been?

Thank you! It’s been really nice to be at studio das weisse haus, and in Vienna. Both have been very welcoming.
Though it’s also a strange and challenging time to be here, it has been rewarding and stimulating to spend time in a new place, to be outside of my usual surroundings, and to be able to build a new routine. I think this is also important right now.

During your stay you will publish three blog posts about the Vienna Art Week. Are there any projects or themes that already caught your attention and might be the subjects of your texts?

Yes, for sure! Things have likely changed a bit, now that the Vienna Art Week program will go digital to adapt to the lockdown restrictions. But from the initial program, I was particularly interested in Roberta Lima’s installation Ghost Plant, the exhibition, Queer Anatomy, as well as the performative installation Entangled Speech by Klaus Spiess and Lucie Strecker.

In terms of themes being addressed in Vienna Art Week’s programming, I am particularly interested in connectivity and productivity — what these terms mean beyond the impact of the current situation, and alternative ways for thinking about what they could mean: what ‘being productive’ or ‘staying connected’ could potentially look like.

What is your personal approach to writing about art?

I would say my approach has changed over the years. My background is in art history, so I started out with a very academic approach. But this can be quite limiting — there can’t be just one absolute narrative or perspective, as the ‘authority’ of an academic approach often suggests. Since co-founding a magazine, textur, in 2018, I’ve been working through other approaches in my publishing routine — sometimes more personal, sometimes more experimental, poetic or fictional. Basically, I try to keep myself open, and even begin to think about art writing as artistic practice in itself. There are changes in the way art is produced, studied, exhibited, etc., and art writing should respond to that, as well.

 

Weekly conversations… with Lena Rosa Händle

Weekly Conversations… with Lena Rosa Händle

The next artist interviewed for our this series is Lena Rosa Händle, who is participating in our program since July 2018. Recently, she started a workshop on photography, taking place every two weeks at her studio, located at Hegelgasse 14.

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Interview by Juliana Furthner

Photo: lena Rosa Händle

This semester you are giving the workshop “Das Eigene im Bild”. For whom is this workshop designed? Are there any requirements to take part?

The workshop is designed for everybody who is interested in photography and who has an own project in process or at least an idea for a project.

In the description of the workshop it is said that the participants should already have a concrete idea for a project. What are the further steps taken in the workshop and how is it structured?

Basically, we talk about the works of the participants, so that they get a lot of feedback and possibilities of development and improvement.

Is there a personal approach or insight into the “omnipresent” medium of photography you want to convey to the participants?

No, I think there are always many ways to read and to understand the medium of photography. I try to understand what the participants want for their projects and to give my expertise of almost 20 years of artistic and applied photography and of teaching.

Weekly Conversations… with Jackie Grassmann & Inga Thiele

Weekly Conversations… with Jackie Grassmann & Inga Thiele

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In this week we are talking to our two Studio Artists, Jackie Grassmann and Inga Charlotte Thiele, who are more than just sharing a studio at Hegelgasse 14.

Interview by Juliana Furthner

You recently initiated the format Salon. What are the ideas and intentions behind that?
Actually, I started the Salon evenings already in Berlin in 2015. Initially it was thought of as an experimental platform and safe space for Woman* in the artworld only. There was the desire to create a space that is differently structured than other spaces within the artworld. When I moved to Vienna, I brought the Salon with me. The idea significantly developed further and changed with meeting Inga and Leonie Huber, at the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna. Since then it was mainly us organizing the Salons, together with our peers.

Inga & Jackie & Leonie: As an artist, you’re either involved in institutional structures or you are somehow on your own. Especially at the end of your education when you’re spit out of the academy but also due to gentrification, different artistic cliques and bubbles and now even more enforced by Covid-19, moments of exchanging artistic ideas, getting support from your local peers, getting feedback, a critique, the time someone really listens to your ideas, become rarer and rarer. Local artists mainly gather at openings and other art events which are not about an intimate exchange and sharing doubts and concerns.

The Salon stands against the (patriarchal) idea of the autonomous studio artist, or artist-genius that has to advertise his singular and independent ideas. Together we come to an understanding that the process of making art is a deeply social practice and we put that understanding into practice with the Salon. We believe that every piece is intertextual, shaped by the matrix of the presence, ideas and critique of our artist colleagues. Authorship always is radical entanglement. The Salon pays tribute to that. Our desire is, to create a space which specifically allows to show and present everything that cannot be fed directly into the stream of artistic value production aimed at an art market or exhibition events. The Salon stands against professionalization and aims to track the gap, the liminal, the left out and left over.

How do you choose your guests, can we apply for that or do we have to receive a special invitation?
It is usually Leonie, Inga and me inviting people. Everyone who’s been to the Salon can make suggestions. There are some returning guests, but we also try to invite people whose practice we’re not familiar with. Basically, we’d like to invite as much people as possible, but there are two important factors that limit our capacity for hosting and choosing guests. Firstly, we see it as our responsibility to create a safe space for everyone present and invite people who share our intentions behind the Salon.

Secondly, as everyone’s contributing something in order not to have a division in audience and participants – the Salon is not held for an audience – time is an issue. Usually there are between 6 and 10 people present and, even though we usually start early in the day, we are rarely finished before midnight. The Salon is definitely no space for quick consumption.

The best invitation system we figured out so far is a kind of chain invitation. Two people give out invitations to one person of their choice each. This person hands on the remaining invitations to a person of their choice. So, every person invites another one. This way we make sure, to assemble a community that can be trusted, but is diverse at the same time. However, invitation politics are important and always will be a recurring topic.

In summer your Salon temporarily changed its location and took over the EXILE Gallery. Can you tell us something about this collaboration?
I wouldn’t call it a collaboration. Together with Leonie Huber, I developed the concept and organized Parasite Salon at Exile. Our desire was to move the Salon from the shadows of private spaces to the public sphere. Specifically, to annex art institutions, hijack them and use their infrastructure in a parasitic manner. As parasites we feed of them, but also use them as a refuge. As an ephemeral collective we feast together, make ourselves at home for a moment, rewrite the structure inscribed in that space. The aim is to let a form of social and artistic practice move into those spaces temporarily, that is usually absent in institutions.

Normally the Salon is taking place in your studio. What interests you about changing the location?
Fugitivity is a state that the economy and normative repressive social structures force us into. We want to appropriate this flight and build communities on the go. The aim is to sprawl and avoid institutionalization and commodification. The Salon does by no means want to mime the traditional elitist intellectual salons of the 19th and 20th century, the name only hints to the notion of the intimacy of a living room and the fact that people gather there. Other than that the Salon is quite the opposite, a place where capital production– may it be social, cultural or financial – is trying to be subverted. Appropriating this name and setting up temporary intimate spaces of artistic exchange wherever we are, might be a first step.